a theme of, our job is not finished until our gay brothers and sisters have equal rights under the law. this was a bigger moment, i think, than a lot of people initially gave it credit for. i just felt this was a president who has found his voice, who feels empowered and knows, as robert said, that he's not going to get everything. i think you were saying in the earlier hour, he didn't campaign on climate change, this is going to be hard and won't get done. >> he didn't campaign on gay rights. he didn't get behind gay rights for four years until joe biden basically outside him. >> exactly. at the same time, i think -- on that stage -- >> what's that? >> that goes a bit far. we can talk about that at another time. >> on the issue, on the issue. >> with re-election, he is thinking much more broadly and much more inclusively. i was very moved, just being up there in that frozen crowd. looking out over the mass. >> one hour, eight minutes into the show, wave heard or read a variety of different reactions of the speech from both sides of the aisle, i think is fascinating. there isn't a swee